Spoiler: we learned about the importance of open source, creating a fantastic community, tech-first vs software that’s not vendor-driven, and more.
Welcome to the Kubernetes Breakfast Club, our new vlog series featuring conversations with some of the most inspiring peers and friends from the cloud-native ecosystem. We ask our guests very important questions like what their favorite morning dish is or what keeps them busy outside their work these days. But we also ask their opinion on open source projects, application development practices, and everything in between.
This week, Alcide CTO and co-founder Gadi Naor is (zoom) calling the mastermind behind open source project envoy, Matt Klein, to see what’s keeping him busy these days. Watch to see Matt and Gadi chat about service-mesh, DevSecOps and the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF).
If you’re into service-mesh and cloud-native in general, chances are you are familiar with Matt Klein, a Software Engineer at Lyft and one of the first contributors to envoy, an open-source edge and service proxy, designed for cloud-native apps, that was created by Lyft.
In this episode, Matt and Gadi take a deep dive into envoy. We learned that when asked ‘why envoy?’ Matt replies that there were enough factors that had lined up for them in order to go and develop envoy, such as extensibility, community involvement, developers’ productivity - to name a few. And, since the time they started, the project's steady growth is something that has become larger than anything Matt could ever have imagined.
Matt also shares his thoughts about the balance between DevOps and security in the development and delivery processes. When asked about security, Matt notes that the tension between velocity-feature-bugs always exists, and that security is something that envoy is taking more and more seriously as it becomes implemented by more and more developers.
Matt says that ”there will always be bugs” but hopefully the number of bugs will become smaller as time goes on, and he emphasized that patching is a primary focus too. He concludes that security is no less important than coding itself and that there is a huge amount of opportunity to help the envoy project right now in both arenas.
Watch the full video to get some more insights from Matt and stay tuned for upcoming interviews.